Periodical (virtual) meetings

Dear realistic IoTlers,

in order to keep RIOT's development community synchronized, discuss the latest changes, new features, and the long-term strategy, we will setup a new meeting on a regular basis. I propose to start with a biweekly rhythm and maybe adjust this if necessary. To give all the RIOTers around the world the opportunity to participate, the meeting will happen as a virtual event using a web conferencing tool. After a first evaluation of available tools that are free of charge, I found TeamViewer [1] to be a good solution. If someone knows something better, we might change this for later meetings.

As a date for the meeting I propose Monday, 4pm CE(S)T starting on October 20. If this date turns out to be inconvenient for some people, we could probably switch to another date in the long-term.

Cheers, Oleg

[1] http://www.teamviewer.com/

Hi Oleg,

Cheers

I’m fine with whatever as long as whatever is settled on runs natively under Linux (Android would be great as well). I’ve heard that WebEx quite good but, unfortunately, it’s not free. An open source solution would be ideal but I don’t know of anything that has feature parity with TeamViewer.

​A regular meeting would be wonderful, especially for those of us in other time zones. While I may not be a contributor (yet), I’d really like to keep up on RIOT. I hope to use it in a side project that I hope to become my primary project soon. Speaking of time zones, CST, is that UTC+01:00?

I haven’t tried any of these but here are a few open source options:

eXo

BigBlueButton Apache Openmeetings

WebHuddle

eXo and BigBlueButton look promising. eXo looks like quite nice but it might be a bit of an undertaking to host (I’d offer to host it but I don’t have the bandwidth at the moment). BigBlueButton seems to be geared towards online learning but still a possibility. Openmeetings and WebHuddle appear to be Java based which is not my first choice; eXo and BigBlueButton look to be WebRTC based which is a plus in my book.

One thing that I personally would really like to see, is a solution that allows for the recording of meetings. Meeting minutes are nice but sometimes it’s nice to see the meeting exactly as it happened.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software

–adam

I’m sorry that I keep replying to myself but I wanted to point out that there are Dockerized versions of eXo, BigBlueButton, and Openmeetings available. The eXo image appears to be from eXo and officially supported, BigBlueButton and Openmeetings on the other hand look like community creations.

https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/exoplatform/ubuntu-jdk7-exo-chat/

https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/juanluisbaptiste/bigbluebutton/

https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/dramaturg/apache-openmeetings/

Hi,

Hi,

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​A regular meeting would be wonderful, especially for those of us in other time zones. While I may not be a contributor (yet), I'd really like to keep up on RIOT. I hope to use it in a side project that I hope to become my primary project soon. Speaking of time zones, CST, is that UTC+01:00?

CEST is Central European Summer Time, so it is UTC+02:00, but next sunday (that is October 26th) we'll switch back to winter time (CST aka UTC+01:00), at least in Germany.

Oops I screwed up: CST is UTC-05:00 (somewhere in the US): CET was what I meant :smiley:

Hi all,

I did look for some additional alternatives and stumbled upon these WebRTCprojects.

  1. meetecho http://www.meetecho.com I think you can set up some pretty professional environment with this but the entry level seems pretty high to set up the central instance.

  2. palava.tv https://palava.tv/ Could be used for a first iteration out of the box. Since it is open source it might make sense to host an own instance if it works.

  3. apear.in https://appear.in/ Offers a low entry level as palava.tv but is not open source and claims to be restricted to 8 persons due to bandwidth constraints. Couldn’t test if you switch off video more people could join.

… I most probably missed one service or another, these popped up in big numbers lately.

I think these offer an interesting approach. You don’t need any extra software (only a decently modern browser) and are built on open standards.

Best, Thomas

Hi folks,

independent from the discussion about the tool we might gonna use in the long run, for this meeting it's gonna be TeamViewer [1].

I opened a Meeting with the ID m81-902-433 - meeting will start in 24 minutes.

Cheers, Oleg

[1] http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/

Hi Adam!

I've also taken a look at the Wikipedia list and evaluated some of the tools.

With the Java-based tools I had the expected troubles and BigBlueButton was stating that it would only support a specific Ubuntu version.

Installing some tool like eXo on a server with sufficient bandwidth shouldn't be a problem from my side. I'll try to install and test it this week.

Cheers, Oleg

P.S. I also think that some piece of open-source software with a similar functionality like Webex.

Updated Meeting ID: m81-197-134

Hi!

Sorry for the flip-flopping and the technical problems! (For those who didn't or couldn't attend: TeamViewer turned out to be a very bad choice and we finally reverted to Skype - which went surprisingly well this time.)

I put up draft for the meeting minutes into the wiki: https://github.com/RIOT-OS/RIOT/wiki/Virtual-Meeting-on-October-20%2C-2014

Please feel free to edit, comment, and correct - it was a long meeting day and I'm not sure that I got everything right.

Cheers, Oleg

Hi!

Since it turned out that Monday afternoon (CET) is not feasible for everyone willing to attend, I propose to use a polling tool to determine the next date: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/RIOT-virt-dev-1/

Which tool we're gonna use for the meeting, will be announced timely.

Cheers, Oleg

​ Installing some tool like eXo on a server with sufficient bandwidth shouldn’t

be a problem from my side. I’ll try to install and test it this week​

​Oleg, ​

​If you’re at all familiar with Docker I highly recommend taking a look that the Dockerized version of eXo​. I pulled it and had a running instance that included eXo, eXo Chat, Oracle’s JDK, and MongoDB all configured and ready to configure and create users in about five minutes.

​–adam​

Hi all,

something is screwed with my mail server/client and I got my mail from yesterday back as undeliverable.

So, second try, as discussed here’s a sketch of what we would like to implement/cope towards a FIB on RIOT:

Best regards, Martin

Hi,

Hi everyone,

Hi!

Since it turned out that Monday afternoon (CET) is not feasible for everyone willing to attend, I propose to use a polling tool to determine the next date: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/RIOT-virt-dev-1/

Did you reach any conclusion from this dudle yet? (i.e. will there be a meeting today?)

Cheers, Lotte

Hi Lotte,

Hi Lotte!

> Since it turned out that Monday afternoon (CET) is not feasible for everyone > willing to attend, I propose to use a polling tool to determine the next date: > https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/RIOT-virt-dev-1/ >

Did you reach any conclusion from this dudle yet? (i.e. will there be a meeting today?)

Sorry that I missed to announce that: the poll indicates that we'll have the meeting tomorrow at 5pm CET. I can see that this date doesn't fit for you, but I hope we can find a convenient date for you the next time.

Concerning the video conferencing tool, we decided to use PlaceCam[1] by daviko[2]. Hauke or I will send around an invitation link which includes a link to download the tool. Unfortunately, for now, Linux users have to download and install the tool beforehand from the daviko web page[3].

Cheers, Oleg

[1] http://www.daviko.com/videokonferenz/22-1-PlaceCam-3.html [2] http://www.daviko.com [3] http://www.daviko.com/videokonferenz/3-1-Download.html

Hi everyone,

as Oleg promised below, we are going to try out Daviko’s PlaceCam for todays meeting. Joining the meeting should be fairly easy, just follow this link:

  • Again, linux users have to install the software beforehand, everyone else should be able to join by starting the software that is downloaded at the link’s address… See you! Hauke